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		<title>By: Charles Grifin</title>
		<link>http://www.jenniferbowen.net/canon-1d-mark-iv-review/comment-page-1#comment-1889</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Grifin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 03:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking for a review on the 1D4 just to see how many may have come to the same conclusion I have, after owning one for 24 hours--that it is a pretty good camera.

I was somewhat disturbed by your perception of your problems with your 5D2 and focusing. I&#039;m retired from news photography  now, but can afford to play with the new toys as they come out. While some of the cameras in recent years have been less than perfect, some--even inexpensive ones--have been superb. I liked the 40D and the XTi, for instance.

It&#039;s the engineering that makes the difference in how well a camera focuses in low light. Pro cameras have more cross-type focus sensors, which improves their low light capabilities. The 5D2, despite its adoption by a host of professionals (mainly because few wanted to spend the money for a 1Ds), was never intended for the same pro usage as the 1D series cameras. The 7D was the first camera outside the 1D series to include a pro-level focusing system. But even that one has a couple of limiting factors--above f5.6 and you&#039;re back to manual focus, while you can use converters and lens that go up to f8 on the 1D series before you lose AF.

Of course there are drawbacks, The 1D4 is the first of its series to have a &quot;what you see is what you get&quot; LCD. This never hindered me before because I base my exposure on what I see in the viewfinder and only used the LCD to check for basic exposure afterward. If I use a camera and lens that starts to hunt, I fall back on the ingrained habit of focusing manually. I trust my eyes and not the little red boxes in the viewfinder--for one thing, those are actually approximations of the location of a focus sensor. There can be a slight difference between the two and it is enough if you are trying to critically focus by putting the red box on a particular spot and the actual sensor is off by a silly millimeter.

Lastly, having had a few covers of my own, having the absolute biggest batch of megapixels is not really necessary. Having the right pixels is what makes for reproducible images. An original 1D with 4.15 megapixels can produce a sharp 13x19 print and a crystal clear magazine cover of standard size.

A 1Ds Mark III will out-perform your 5D2, even though the full frame sensor is virtually the same. You&#039;d just pay a lot more for it.  Another thing. The 1D series have so many buttons that they just added the movie function to an already existing button to avoid having to add one.

But, you&#039;ve made a good choice in the 1D4 and, if you don&#039;t get the itchies when the next great thing comes out, it will serve you for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for a review on the 1D4 just to see how many may have come to the same conclusion I have, after owning one for 24 hours&#8211;that it is a pretty good camera.</p>
<p>I was somewhat disturbed by your perception of your problems with your 5D2 and focusing. I&#8217;m retired from news photography  now, but can afford to play with the new toys as they come out. While some of the cameras in recent years have been less than perfect, some&#8211;even inexpensive ones&#8211;have been superb. I liked the 40D and the XTi, for instance.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the engineering that makes the difference in how well a camera focuses in low light. Pro cameras have more cross-type focus sensors, which improves their low light capabilities. The 5D2, despite its adoption by a host of professionals (mainly because few wanted to spend the money for a 1Ds), was never intended for the same pro usage as the 1D series cameras. The 7D was the first camera outside the 1D series to include a pro-level focusing system. But even that one has a couple of limiting factors&#8211;above f5.6 and you&#8217;re back to manual focus, while you can use converters and lens that go up to f8 on the 1D series before you lose AF.</p>
<p>Of course there are drawbacks, The 1D4 is the first of its series to have a &#8220;what you see is what you get&#8221; LCD. This never hindered me before because I base my exposure on what I see in the viewfinder and only used the LCD to check for basic exposure afterward. If I use a camera and lens that starts to hunt, I fall back on the ingrained habit of focusing manually. I trust my eyes and not the little red boxes in the viewfinder&#8211;for one thing, those are actually approximations of the location of a focus sensor. There can be a slight difference between the two and it is enough if you are trying to critically focus by putting the red box on a particular spot and the actual sensor is off by a silly millimeter.</p>
<p>Lastly, having had a few covers of my own, having the absolute biggest batch of megapixels is not really necessary. Having the right pixels is what makes for reproducible images. An original 1D with 4.15 megapixels can produce a sharp 13&#215;19 print and a crystal clear magazine cover of standard size.</p>
<p>A 1Ds Mark III will out-perform your 5D2, even though the full frame sensor is virtually the same. You&#8217;d just pay a lot more for it.  Another thing. The 1D series have so many buttons that they just added the movie function to an already existing button to avoid having to add one.</p>
<p>But, you&#8217;ve made a good choice in the 1D4 and, if you don&#8217;t get the itchies when the next great thing comes out, it will serve you for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Russy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Russy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
For the same reasons like you I bought the 1D Mk4.
After using the 5D Mk2 for over 2 years and the 1D for now 3 months:
I had to get used like you to the little bit different knobs.
Then I had to learn, how good the none- center AF points work, and they work really good.
Lowlight and Autofocus: for me the center field of the 5D work as good as any of the 1D, in daylight the none- center fields of the 1D are far superior, they are simply sharp.
Sure, its not the fullframe thing, but this cuts of the notsogood edges of the 16-35/2,8II, which are really not good at all, espacially at the 5D.
Out of the camera- jpegs are much better from the 1D, but for a raw- shooter this is a remark and not important.
So I have 2 very good bodies.
I like the 5D for the slower sides of life like landscapes, stills or portraits, the 1D when its getting faster.
For me the 5D has a little bit better image quality than the 1D, so little, that the handling and better AF-performance of the 1D makes the 1D my companion most of the time.
Sorry for bad grammar and spelling, english is not my mothers tongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
For the same reasons like you I bought the 1D Mk4.<br />
After using the 5D Mk2 for over 2 years and the 1D for now 3 months:<br />
I had to get used like you to the little bit different knobs.<br />
Then I had to learn, how good the none- center AF points work, and they work really good.<br />
Lowlight and Autofocus: for me the center field of the 5D work as good as any of the 1D, in daylight the none- center fields of the 1D are far superior, they are simply sharp.<br />
Sure, its not the fullframe thing, but this cuts of the notsogood edges of the 16-35/2,8II, which are really not good at all, espacially at the 5D.<br />
Out of the camera- jpegs are much better from the 1D, but for a raw- shooter this is a remark and not important.<br />
So I have 2 very good bodies.<br />
I like the 5D for the slower sides of life like landscapes, stills or portraits, the 1D when its getting faster.<br />
For me the 5D has a little bit better image quality than the 1D, so little, that the handling and better AF-performance of the 1D makes the 1D my companion most of the time.<br />
Sorry for bad grammar and spelling, english is not my mothers tongue.</p>
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		<title>By: jenjoaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenjoaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart, thanks for your comment. Sounds like we have had opposite issues with the two cameras. Whenever I use the 5d II in low light, it misses about 100% of the time - heck it misses 50-60% of the time in perfect light. The 1D IV is my primary camera for everything now since its so reliable. I wish it were a full frame for sure, but I&#039;ll still take it over my 5d ii. Waiting, waiting, waiting for the 5D replacement which will hopefully blend the two cameras and be out in the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart, thanks for your comment. Sounds like we have had opposite issues with the two cameras. Whenever I use the 5d II in low light, it misses about 100% of the time &#8211; heck it misses 50-60% of the time in perfect light. The 1D IV is my primary camera for everything now since its so reliable. I wish it were a full frame for sure, but I&#8217;ll still take it over my 5d ii. Waiting, waiting, waiting for the 5D replacement which will hopefully blend the two cameras and be out in the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Meyer - Indianapolis Wedding Photographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Meyer - Indianapolis Wedding Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar experience with my 5D II early on.  The problem was that in low &quot;candle&quot; light situations the AF would hunt badly.  After sending it in for a fix, it was able to focus at very low light levels, especially with prime lenses like the 50/1.4, 85/1.2, and 35/1.4.  It&#039;s so good that in near darkness, all I need to do is find an edge with a small source of backlight and it will lock.  I borrowed a 1D IV from a friend for 5 weddings to evaluate it with the intent to purchase one.  What I found was that the 1D IV AF hunted worse than my 5D II in low light.  Everything else was as advertised, awesome camera.  But in low light, it was about 1 F-stop worse.  It had the most trouble with the 70-200/2.8 IS Mk II lens.  At one dark reception, it missed 100% with this lens and I had to switch to the 5D II, which missed about 50%.  With prime lenses like the 35/1.4 and 24/1.4, there was an improvement but it was still worse than the 5D II.  Lots of misses.  I wanted the 1D IV for wedding photography, but I can&#039;t bring myself to buy it now that I&#039;ve evaluated it.  For reference, I use center point AF and re-compose, except for AI servo.  Also, I have two friends who sent their 5D II&#039;s in for an AF fix soon after purchase, and they got them back with flawless AF performance too.  -Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience with my 5D II early on.  The problem was that in low &#8220;candle&#8221; light situations the AF would hunt badly.  After sending it in for a fix, it was able to focus at very low light levels, especially with prime lenses like the 50/1.4, 85/1.2, and 35/1.4.  It&#8217;s so good that in near darkness, all I need to do is find an edge with a small source of backlight and it will lock.  I borrowed a 1D IV from a friend for 5 weddings to evaluate it with the intent to purchase one.  What I found was that the 1D IV AF hunted worse than my 5D II in low light.  Everything else was as advertised, awesome camera.  But in low light, it was about 1 F-stop worse.  It had the most trouble with the 70-200/2.8 IS Mk II lens.  At one dark reception, it missed 100% with this lens and I had to switch to the 5D II, which missed about 50%.  With prime lenses like the 35/1.4 and 24/1.4, there was an improvement but it was still worse than the 5D II.  Lots of misses.  I wanted the 1D IV for wedding photography, but I can&#8217;t bring myself to buy it now that I&#8217;ve evaluated it.  For reference, I use center point AF and re-compose, except for AI servo.  Also, I have two friends who sent their 5D II&#8217;s in for an AF fix soon after purchase, and they got them back with flawless AF performance too.  -Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had the same problem with both of my 5DMII bodie&#039;s 
I had to send them both to Jamesburg NJ for repairs
In the first year of the ownership they been there 5 times for diferent problems from error99 messages to AF issues to mirror box problems.
The 5DMII is by far the most problematic camera ever made in the history of cameras.
Switched to 1DSMIII and 1DMIV and never looked back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had the same problem with both of my 5DMII bodie&#8217;s<br />
I had to send them both to Jamesburg NJ for repairs<br />
In the first year of the ownership they been there 5 times for diferent problems from error99 messages to AF issues to mirror box problems.<br />
The 5DMII is by far the most problematic camera ever made in the history of cameras.<br />
Switched to 1DSMIII and 1DMIV and never looked back</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stewart White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Stewart White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there,

I have both the 5DII and 1DIV, as you do, and have none of the problems with the 5DII that you have so unfortunately been plagued with.  I have even shot sporting events indoors with no flash with the 5DII while waiting for the 1DIV to arrive, and it worked quite well.  I assume you are not using flash in your wedding shooting, which is nice when possible (nice for the guests and couple).  Otherwise the flash&#039;s focus assist would help, eh?

The 1DIV button that you speak of (&quot;fel&quot;) is the flash exposure lock button, which starts movie recording in Live mode.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,</p>
<p>I have both the 5DII and 1DIV, as you do, and have none of the problems with the 5DII that you have so unfortunately been plagued with.  I have even shot sporting events indoors with no flash with the 5DII while waiting for the 1DIV to arrive, and it worked quite well.  I assume you are not using flash in your wedding shooting, which is nice when possible (nice for the guests and couple).  Otherwise the flash&#8217;s focus assist would help, eh?</p>
<p>The 1DIV button that you speak of (&#8220;fel&#8221;) is the flash exposure lock button, which starts movie recording in Live mode.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: jenjoaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenjoaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bernard - it is much better for me (the Mark IV), but sounds like your cameras are opposite for you which is good.  The only lens I really dislike on both cameras as far as softness goes is the 16-35 f/2.8. Soft on both unless I shoot it higher - like f/8. I LOVE the wide angle of this lens and the cool effects you can get, but I have not been super happy with the output as far as softness, esp on the edges where it blurs out the farther out you get. It&#039;s prob worse on the 5D than the mark iv. Like I said above to Mark - I agree that it is lame the lenses do not behave the same way on the two bodies. I would love to see Canon jump on here to answer why that would be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bernard &#8211; it is much better for me (the Mark IV), but sounds like your cameras are opposite for you which is good.  The only lens I really dislike on both cameras as far as softness goes is the 16-35 f/2.8. Soft on both unless I shoot it higher &#8211; like f/8. I LOVE the wide angle of this lens and the cool effects you can get, but I have not been super happy with the output as far as softness, esp on the edges where it blurs out the farther out you get. It&#8217;s prob worse on the 5D than the mark iv. Like I said above to Mark &#8211; I agree that it is lame the lenses do not behave the same way on the two bodies. I would love to see Canon jump on here to answer why that would be?</p>
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		<title>By: jenjoaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenjoaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Thank you for your reply! I agree with you in everything you said. The lenses do behave differently between the two cameras, which is frustrating. I also agree that the IDmk4 works best on &quot;One Shot&quot; focusing and actually takes sharper photos (at almost 98% consistency) in vertical portrait mode. Most of the focus points will work, but especially when I manually move it to cover the face - one above the center focus point). I also agree that the color is prettier out of the 5Dmark2 and the post processing a little easier. I think it simply because it is a full frame camera and can hold more data in the sensor. No matter how many pixels they jammed together into the Mark IV, the 5D still renders highlights better with less blowing out and has prettier straight out of the camera looks, UNLESS I shoot in JPEG mode, in which case the Mark IV also has beautiful color output. But I cannot safely shoot a wedding in JPEG, especially for inside stuff, b/c I would completely lose the control with the white balance adjustments which as you know with JPEG just is not as nice.

I dont know why your 300 doesnt look as good on the Mark IV. I wonder if you have it calibrated for that particular camera if it would not work as well on the 5D any more. I guess the good thing is you always know what lens to use with what camera. But I agree with you - lenses should work well on any body. My 50 f/1.2 on my Mark IV is unbeatable, sadly not on the 5D. Blurry on the latter 60-70% of the time.

I just had my first experience at a wedding last weekend where the Mark IV could not grab focus at the reception. The room was DARK and I kept searching for white shirts, her dress, etc, seeing if it would lock on. No luck. 25 shots of crap total out of focus blur with me getting very frustrated. I realized a minute later the focus point was not in the center (must have accidentally knocked it off and didnt realize) and that I had it on AL SERVO. When I changed it back to center point ONE SHOT, it worked beautifully again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Thank you for your reply! I agree with you in everything you said. The lenses do behave differently between the two cameras, which is frustrating. I also agree that the IDmk4 works best on &#8220;One Shot&#8221; focusing and actually takes sharper photos (at almost 98% consistency) in vertical portrait mode. Most of the focus points will work, but especially when I manually move it to cover the face &#8211; one above the center focus point). I also agree that the color is prettier out of the 5Dmark2 and the post processing a little easier. I think it simply because it is a full frame camera and can hold more data in the sensor. No matter how many pixels they jammed together into the Mark IV, the 5D still renders highlights better with less blowing out and has prettier straight out of the camera looks, UNLESS I shoot in JPEG mode, in which case the Mark IV also has beautiful color output. But I cannot safely shoot a wedding in JPEG, especially for inside stuff, b/c I would completely lose the control with the white balance adjustments which as you know with JPEG just is not as nice.</p>
<p>I dont know why your 300 doesnt look as good on the Mark IV. I wonder if you have it calibrated for that particular camera if it would not work as well on the 5D any more. I guess the good thing is you always know what lens to use with what camera. But I agree with you &#8211; lenses should work well on any body. My 50 f/1.2 on my Mark IV is unbeatable, sadly not on the 5D. Blurry on the latter 60-70% of the time.</p>
<p>I just had my first experience at a wedding last weekend where the Mark IV could not grab focus at the reception. The room was DARK and I kept searching for white shirts, her dress, etc, seeing if it would lock on. No luck. 25 shots of crap total out of focus blur with me getting very frustrated. I realized a minute later the focus point was not in the center (must have accidentally knocked it off and didnt realize) and that I had it on AL SERVO. When I changed it back to center point ONE SHOT, it worked beautifully again.</p>
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		<title>By: jenjoaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenjoaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex, yes the focal lengths are slightly different for those shots, however the internal focusing system between both cameras is completely different. The Mark IV beats out the 5DmarkII hands down in speed and precision on focusing. The DOF doesn&#039;t have anything to do with the internal working systems. When Canon made the Mark IV they vastly improved the focusing system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex, yes the focal lengths are slightly different for those shots, however the internal focusing system between both cameras is completely different. The Mark IV beats out the 5DmarkII hands down in speed and precision on focusing. The DOF doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with the internal working systems. When Canon made the Mark IV they vastly improved the focusing system.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J Dunham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J Dunham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jennifer,

Great read, I am kinda in the same boat as you and was considering the Mark IV. Can I assume that your latest work is using it? Any stand outs that you can point me to in your site that represent the highest IQ (Tack Sharp)

Best Wishes,
Michael J Dunham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jennifer,</p>
<p>Great read, I am kinda in the same boat as you and was considering the Mark IV. Can I assume that your latest work is using it? Any stand outs that you can point me to in your site that represent the highest IQ (Tack Sharp)</p>
<p>Best Wishes,<br />
Michael J Dunham</p>
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