Canon 1D Mark IV Review

First let me apologize to my clients and all the non-photographers who read my blog, because this post will likely bore you to death. It’s a technical (and long) one regarding equipment that other photographers might appreciate, but for the rest of you, feel free to skip this one.

I wanted to share my thoughts on the new Canon EOS 1D Mark IV. I recently purchased it, but almost feel it was out of necessity, rather than a purely desired purchase. Let me explain.

I have always been a Canon shooter. But as some of my photographer friends know, this past year I have contemplated moving to Nikon. I’m not one of those who has loved the 5D Mark II because I’ve had some issues with mine, specifically  the focus system. After many frustrations this past year shooting with the Mark II (and the focus system already being replaced once by Canon) I’ve put my faith in them that this new 1D Mark IV, with its brand-spanking-new 45-point focusing system, will respond consistently well and be a suitable replacement for my Mark II.

Let me give you a little background as to the equipment I’ve used and my progression through different bodies so it has some context. When I first started in photography about 10 years ago, purely as a hobby then, I learned with film. I bought a Canon Rebel film body, an entry level lens or two, and basically shot it on automatic until I started to learn a little more about shooting manually. Digital SLR cameras really starting taking off shortly after that, and being one who was never intimated by technology, I made that jump pretty early on. I bought the newest “entry level” digital SLR body at the time (Canon Rebel), a better lens, and my relationship with Canon digital SLR’s began…

That first Rebel camera worked well for me until I started shooting weddings and quickly realized I needed something that responded much faster and was more ergonomically laid out control-wise. I bought the newly released Canon 20D and found it worked great for the next year, and when the Canon 30D came out, I bought that one and sold the old Rebel. I shot with those two cameras for about a year until I could afford to buy the lovely full-frame Canon EOS 5D. And I fell in love instantly. Moving from a cropped sensor, like all the previous models were, into a full frame quite frankly took my photography to another level. The colors popped more, and the images out of the camera were just seemed to have more depth and dimension.  Not to mention my lenses, by this time mostly pro “L” series lenses worked as they should, meaning I had the full focal distance out of them. I knew that since I had gone to a full-frame sensor, I could never go back. I sold the old 20D and used the 30D as my primary backup, but mostly shot with that 5D for the next 2 1/2 years.

But like all things do, that camera aged with time and the technology had by then outpaced the current features. Like many other photographers out there, I was itching for Canon for release its successor since it had been 3 years since they rolled out a replacement full frame. I followed many of the technical blogs out there, checked in with Canon and other technology sites and forums, and waited impatiently for the replacement. Finally they announced it – the 5D Mark II! – and I quickly added my name to the waiting list at Samy’s, B&H and Crutchfield for the thing. It finally arrived right before Christmas 2008, and I felt like I did the year I got the Cabbage Patch Kid doll from Santa. I was so excited to get my new toy and play with the features and functions, see how high I could push the ISO, and use the movie function to record home videos of Jordan on Christmas morning and of her seeing her new baby brother for the first time a month later.  (Ironically — and quite sadly for me — I accidentally reformatted the CF card of Jordan seeing Alex for the first time in the hospital before I pulled off the video. I pulled all the images but forgot to move the video over since those files were newer to me. Big, big bummer.)

So since that time, I’ve been shooting weddings with the Mark II and the original 5D. There are many things that I do like/love about the 5D Mark II, namely the high ISO and the ability to shoot rather cleanly in very dark scenes with no flash, the larger LCD screen, some of the new functions and  generally the feel of it my hands. I also obviously love the HD video capability for personal use and ergonomically, I find it’s a little ‘sturdier’ than the old 5D. And while the huge jump in megapixles was nice (if they are needed, say for shooting the cover of a magazine) I found I usually shot in SRAW 1 so that the files were 10-11 megapixels and not 21. Mainly because a 10 mpx RAW file produces a beautiful image, and working with those massive 21 mpx files requires an inordinate amount of space, both on CF cards and on the computer hard drive and virtual memory.

But what I did not like is that I noticed pretty quickly that this camera’s focusing system was extremely inconsistent. It had a difficult time locking in on a subject in low light conditions, such as receptions or darker ceremony spots, and would often “hunt” for too long, even with very fast prime lenses and all “L” series professional ones. What good is that high ISO for low lighting if the camera can’t focus on anything when you need it to? Many images came out very soft or slightly off focus. My Mark II also had a hard time locking focus in conditions that it should not have – such as high contrast or perfect outdoor light. On several occasions it would hunt between the groom’s tux and the bride’s dress and never focus lock on anything – as if it didn’t know if it should lock on black or white. Many times at weddings this past year, I had to flip my lens to manual focus and just override the whole system so I didn’t miss moments. And for someone who does not have 20/20 vision, that can be a little risky at times. But I usually did better than the AF system did! (Side note: I have used the “back-focus” button approach for a few years now; where you can lock in on your subject with the center focal point and then reposition the camera as needed by switching the functions between your exposure lock button on the back with the shutter button. This always worked brilliantly with the first 5D, but my Mark II would lose its focus on the recomposition half the time. It’s like the thing was on crack and so happy to keep bouncing around every second.  So, I sent it back to Canon and they replaced the entire AF system, saying it did have some malfunction issues. It came back better, but still did not focus as consistently well as my older 5D focuses.)

This past year, I had to increase the number of shots I take at any given portrait session or wedding just so that *something* came out in tack-sharp focus. I could take 3 shots of the same scene where I have changed absolutely nothing focus-lock wise and 2 would be SO soft and blurry and one tack-sharp. As a wedding photographer paid to capture moments, I cannot afford to miss any moments due to a poor internal focus system that is so inconsistent. After a little googling of “focus issues with the 5D Mark II”, I found LOTS of people were having the same issue I was. Turns out there are several blogs and forums burning up with less-than-kind-words for Canon, and specifically this camera and the focus system they should have updated when they released this camera. I wont share those links here only because my intention with this post is certainly not to bash Canon, and you can easily google the issues. As I said earlier, I have always been a Canon shooter, and my goal is to stick with them, because I think by and large they do make great products.

Which brings me back to hinging my relationship on this new 1D Mark IV. When Canon announced it, and the completely redesigned new 45-point focus system, I took a very hard look. I read as many things as I could about the camera, but I was afraid to spend that kind of money on a relatively untested body since I’d had so many problems the last time. And Canon definitely keeps things under wraps as far as all their selected-photographer-testers go; meaning those testers are not allowed to even look at their images on a computer or post them online; they can only view what’s on the LCD, which as we all know can sometimes look perfect there but when you open it up in the computer, sharpness can be off. (Which begs the question: why so much secrecy Canon? From what I understand, Nikon does not have this same approach with their testers.)

But what sealed the deal for me on deciding to move forward with this camera was this review by England-based photographer Jeff Ascough.  It wasn’t so much the {great} images that he did post from the wedding taken with this camera, it was that like me, his big hesitation was the fact that this was not a full-frame camera and therefore, its hard to imagine the files could be as pretty as the files that come out of the full frame Mark II. But as he put it after looking at them – the Mark IV blew the Mark II out of the water quality wise and he loved the focus system. Okay, done.

I will say, so far I am loving this camera. The focus system is much better, hands down. It doesn’t not have a problem locking in really low light, low contrast light or even nearly dark rooms. The files straight out of the camera are beautiful. It is a new body and system for me, since the 1 series cameras are a little different button wise than the 5D’s, and that is taking a little getting used to, but it has a ton of custom functions that the Mark II does not have. I also love that it has a dual card slot. It takes a CF card and a SD card. Battery life remains to be seen as far as shooting a wedding and if it will last all day. (Addendum: The battery does last all day.)

I did a comparison shoot the other day, where I set the two cameras on the exact same settings and took the same image to compare the output. In all cases, the Mark IV focused faster and quieter. I too thought I would notice the fact that it was a cropped sensor more than I am. When you compare the files with the Mark II, you do certainly see the crop, but when its up to your eye, Im not noticing it too much. Im a fairly “intimate” wedding shooter anyway, meaning I like to get up close to capture emotion, so I think this balanced with the full frame Mark II, will work beautifully for 2010 weddings. I can’t wait to put it to use starting March 6 with my first wedding back.

These images are of nothing special; I just wanted to show the color fidelity and quality of RAW images straight out of the camera for comparison sake. Nothing has been done to these except for converting them to JPEG via Adobe Lightroom. All images were taken with the exact same settings: same lens, aperture, and ISO. The shutter speed did vary a little since the sensors are different size. I’ve noted the settings below.

(I would have taken face & eyes shots of Jordan if I could have convinced to her sit still for more than 5 minutes for this, but alas, my almost 5-year-old had more important things to do, like climb the tree. And my client sessions of late have been little kids so its impossible to do a ‘test shoot” on toddlers – so instead you get kids toys! ;-)

This is the Canon 5D Mark II image (ISO 400, 24-70mm f/2.8L lens, shot at f/2.8, 1/2500 second). Used center focal point on the mouse and recomposed. Partially cloudy day; overcast at time of shot.

And the Canon 1D Mark IV image. (ISO 400, 24-70mm f/2.8L lens, shot at f/2.8, 1/4000 second). Same lighting conditions as above. Same focus approach; appears more in focus to me overall.

Canon 5D Mark II image (ISO 400, 24-70mm f/2.8L lens, shot at f/2.8, 1/6400 second)

Canon 1D Mark IV image. (ISO 400, 24-70mm f/2.8L lens, shot at f/2.8, 1/6400 second). This image would be brighter like above if I had backed up a bit, but I wanted to show the crop factor by staying in same place.

Canon 5D Mark II image (ISO 100, 50mm f/1.2 L lens, shot at f/2.0 @ 1/200 second)

Canon 1D Mark IV image (ISO 100, 50mm f/1.2 L lens, shot at f/2.0 @ 1/250 second). Again, appears to capture more detail.

Finally, here are the cameras side by side. My 5DMKII has the battery grip on it, which is nice at weddings because I never need to change the battery. The battery in the IDMKIV is bigger and different, so the “battery grip” is already part of the camera. I’m interested to know if it will last the entire day. Between the two cameras I’ll never run out of juice (and I always carry backup batteries even if I did), but it will be interesting to see how they perform side by side at the weddings this year.

5DMKII on the left. I will say I do like all the main buttons (menu, trash, review) to the left of the LCD like on the 5D, but I am getting used to the other body. Camera/live view function makes much more sense on the 5D also. Not sure why they named it “fel” on the 1D and put it on the front, right by the shutter button.

If you are one of those photographers who has had issues with your 5DMarkII, I’d love to know — or even if you haven’t and want to share your experience with it, please do! I have read some “rumors” that suggest Canon will issue a replacement for the 5D Mark II at some point in the next year or so – with the new focus system – and ideally I would have like to have waited, but in case it takes another year to come out, I didn’t want to wait that long. I also debated buying another original model 5D since I know a few places are still selling them, but after getting so used to the high ISO and bigger LCD, I didn’t know if I could go back to the other model ;-).

Anyway, hope this post helps if anyone else is on the fence about buying this new camera.

July 15, 2010 - 11:11 am

Alex - Excellent review.
Just a comment.
Assuming that the first two photos were taken with the same focal length, I would note that the DOF is greater in the case of the Mk IV´s APS-H sensor. So, it is not a 5D2´s focusing issue.
Regards.

July 10, 2010 - 8:00 am

Mark Dayman - I want to thank you for a start, for taking the time to write your article. It is of particular interest to me, as not only do I own both these cameras, and have issues with both. I am also a wedding photographer who made exactly the same decision as you based on the same articles. I purchased the 1d4 for 2 reasons, the 5d2 autofocus is ancient, I need to be able to select the AF I want in a second. And I wanted the high ISO, low noise capabilities of the 1d4.
Here is a run down of the issues I am having with both cameras.
For a start my 85 1.2L is crap on my 5d2 at f2-f1.2 maybe a 50% hit rate, in low light…You would think being a specialist low light lens they would have a camera that could match it.
I can shoot at f5.6 and it’s amazing, and 98% hit rate but surely I could have bought the 85 1.8 and saved thousands if I knew the camera wasn’t up to it. Secondly my 70-200 2.8 is soft on the 2. On my old 50d it was tack sharp. Now yes there is microajustment but with a zoom you really can only ajust for one focal length.
So I thought the solution was the 1D series. Like you I shoot dark weddings and you need a camera that is trustworthy. No second chances. Well the 1d is an amazing camera generally, it would want to be for the investment….One of the big selling points for me with this camera was that you can selact any of the AF points with the multicontroller on the fly. Pity that all the outer AF points are soft and barely usable for weddings. It hunts in low light and can’t find focus. The 7d get’s spot focus for all lenses the 1d4 only for the lenses that have a spot focus button, like the 300 2.8 etc. Where is the logic in this? Canon’s reasoning is it slows dont the AF.
I can set up with an identical setting for 3 shots in a row, 2 are soft and one is tack sharp. I, like you am taking 2 to 3 times more shots simply to make sure I get what I need. I can tell you a bride doesn’t like to be kept waiting… You need to trust your ability and equipment. ATM I only trust myself. I too have on occasion switched to manual focus with way better results, but you can’t trust your eye that much in a dark room on a wedding day.
I own a 300 f2.8 and the 1d4 you would say ‘wow’ that combination is unbeatable. Wrong, on the 5d2 this lens is flawless, centre point focus and I can say I have never seen sharper images.
Put it on the 1d4 and its soft. No matter how many cfn’s you change. Yes tomorrow I will calibrate it properly and hopefully that will fix it. But the point is, I know the lens is perfect.
So my dilemma… I have a sports camera that won’t shoot sports and a wedding camera that won’t shoot low light with the specialist lenses, of course if I reverse the lenese and cameras, bingo. the only problem with that is 5d2 3.9 burst speed.
Last but not I’d be interested to have your thoughts on the color difference between the two cameras, personally I like the 5d2, It could just be personal taste but to me the 1d4′s a flat and need more post work whereas the 5d2 is fantastic.

Right now I’m thinking the 7d would’ve had my bank account in much better shape and saved me a lot of grief.
Thanks for letting me vent.

July 6, 2010 - 8:12 am

Bernard - Not sure about the glowing reviews on the 1D MK IV with regard to sharp images and faster focusing. Is this camera much of an improvement from the 5D2 in terms of focusing and sharp images. My experience so far is to the contrary. To me the idea of shipping the camera and or lenses to canon for calibration is an indication of a salient technical and or functionality issue. Besides, this is an unnecessary time expense.
The 5D2 produces sharp images when the conditions are rife however it gives up in low light ceremonies and receptions. For this reason, I purchased the 1D MK IV and after a few tests, I have found a high percentage of soft images. Sharp images are rare, under 30% using 24-70 2.8 and 20-700 2.8. As things stand and specifically for weddings, I find it hard to say that this is an improvement from 5D2

June 5, 2010 - 8:39 am

jenjoaz - Mark, you are very welcome! Glad it worked. Using back-focus button method is SO much better for locking the focus I find. Also, I tend to use the center-point focus with the 5DMKII and recompose, but love, love, love the 45 movable focus points on the 1D Mark IV. They are usually spot on and super sharp and I can selectively spot-focus on any area. I just accidentally used my 5DMKII instead of the IDMKIV for a moment when the bride and groom walked back down the aisle and it just stinks in comparison. Missed half of the shots due to it hunting all over the place or focusing on the people BEHIND the B &G :-(

June 4, 2010 - 5:24 pm

Mark - Hey Jennifer – I haven’t sent my lenses in for calibration, and I think after sending the body in 3x now, it’s probably good advice (Canon’s requested them as well if this last adjustment doesn’t work) though have not had a chance yet to test the repair. As for the back focus button, I got it! I usually try and use the outer focus points for focusing (single shot) and just hold the shutter button down after focusing and then maybe a slight re-compose. I can see where your method holds the focus without having to grab for it again. Using the shutter for focus, I do so and hold it while re-composing, then never fully release it after the first frame (keeps the focus locked) if I’m going to fire off more and nothing’s in need of another focus grab. I’ll try your method next time; thanks for the explanation.

May 18, 2010 - 7:51 pm

Canon 1D Mark IV - This is really a great camera for a professional.

May 17, 2010 - 12:14 pm

Jennifer Bowen - Hey Mark – Its funny because I had the exact opposite experience you have had. My Mark IV has been suburb on focusing – 95% tack sharp. I had the same issues you had with my 5d mark ii – backfocusing all the time. Have you had your lenses calibrated? They likely need to be calibrated for your Mark IV. My 70-200 just went soft on me last week and needs to be calibrated again. The advantage of the rear focus button is that you can lock in on your subject and then recompose your lens to change your composition, keeping the first thing you locked in on in focus. The shutter button wont allow you to recompose in the same way, meaning you would need to compose your shot first then focus, since every time you press the shutter down the focus would change. Granted, with the quick and easy way to change the 45 focus points on the mark iv, its not as necessary, but once you get used to switching your focus lock to your back exposure button, you’ll likely never go back. It’s in the custom functions. You just need to exchange what the exposure lock button and the shutter button functions do. I hope that helps!

May 13, 2010 - 8:13 am

Mark - I’ve shot with the 5D MKI while waiting patiently for Canon to release another camera with a mature focus system and better responsiveness than the 5D variants. Purchased the 1D MK IV as it seemed to have it all, but have been frustrated by focusing problems. My outer points were producing erratic focus results; soft and front focused, and never really pulling in anything sharp. Sent the camera in to Canon for repair, and while they acknowledge the problem and repaired it, it’s back for a second time as images are still not sharp. Even with using just the center point, tripod, mirror lockup and cable release, images are not as sharp as my 5D. Despite all the glowing reviews of the camera, I have come across another wedding photographer who’s having the exact same problems as mine; maybe just a bad run of cameras. Also, since I shoot Manually, what’s the advantage of using the rear focus button and re-composing over the shutter button? I don’t see how this would solve or change anything. Thanks.

April 1, 2010 - 6:07 pm

Don - Hi Jennifer. Thanks so much for the review. I own the 1D Mark III and have since it came out a few years ago. Originally I though it was just me missing the shot until I read about the focusing issues the camera was having. It’s still my only camera so I really can’t send it in and be without it for the weeks that it takes to get the repairs needed. But really the problem hasn’t been that bad. I’m now about to buy a new camera and other than the focus issues, I love my 1D and am considering the Mark IV. Your review really helped push me further down that path. I can’t wait to get my hands on it. btw, I’m sure you figured it out already but the FEL is the Flash Exposure Lock. So thus why it’s by the shutter release button. Thanks again for your great review.

March 25, 2010 - 9:48 pm

cameron clark| cameron + kelly studio - I still love my EOS 1D Mark II (big body). I have a 5dMarkII but I guess I haven’t had TOO much trouble with it, although I have noticed some focus issues on occasion, but I do front button focus. hummmm. Also, use your batteries until they are DEAD DEAD then charge them up fully. I never stick a battery on a charger half full I don’t care what they tell you about battery memory. My batteries last a LONG time and I even have the crappy old kind. I’m vigilant about this with my cell phones too and my batteries last a long time. Never use a car charger. I like to charge my battery fully 1-2 times a year then click *refresh* and let the battery die down and then recharge it. I don’t know… it works for me. :) I am considering moving to Nikon. I used to shoot Nikon and their cameras just have the buttons in the RIGHT places–Ergo-nomic!! I LOVE the D3.

March 4, 2010 - 2:14 pm

Jerry - Hi Jennifer-I also have photgraphed weddings with a Canon 5dII and was disappointed with the percentage of sharp images I was getting from the camera in low light situations. I traded in my 5dmkII for a 1Dmk4 about one month ago and just completed my first wedding with the camera last week. I must say I am so happy with the quality and color this camera is capable of delivering that I am not sorry I no longer have the 5dmkII. The ability to get excellent image quality in low light situations is a wonderful advantage since this was almost impossible with the 5DmkII. I enjoyed reading you post about your experience since mine has been similar to yours. I went from a 20d to a 5D1 to a 5dmkII and now a 1dmk4. My feeling is there is no perfect camera. The camera that best meets your needs is the perfect camera for you. Thanks for sharing your experience.

March 3, 2010 - 9:28 pm

jenjoaz - I just saw this expanded review on this camera and wanted to post the link for those interested: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLetter/Canon-Mark-IV.jsp

February 25, 2010 - 9:25 am

jenjoaz - Thanks for your feedback Timon. I had heard the previous 1 series cameras had issues but Im glad to know you havent had any issues with your 5D. I dont want anyone to think that its all the cameras or that its a widespread issue or complaint with Canon. Perhaps I just got a bad one. For the most part I really like my 5DMKII, and there are several things button wise I like better about it. I do use the back-button focusing technique with both cameras, meaning I do not use the shutter button to focus, but rather the exposure lock button.

February 25, 2010 - 9:14 am

Timon Harper - Hi Jennifer, I had focusing issues with the original Mark II. I owned two of them and was frustrated with the exact symptoms you described of the 5DMII. I have owned one 5D Mark II for a year now and have had no issues with the focusing. I have been very pleased with the sharpness. However, I learned from another photographer to use the back button for focusing which I always use so I am not sure if I would have the same problem you were having using the shutter button for focusing as well. This is the first time I heard of problems with it which makes me nervous because I just ordered a second 5DMII and am expecting it to arrive today. I considered the Mark IV for its high ISO but wasn’t sure that I needed to go that big this go around.

February 22, 2010 - 8:16 pm

stephanie - Thank you so much for your review currently Ive been wanting a full sensor and have been debating about nikon d700 or 5d II Ive been going back and fourth with this and you helped out alot!

February 20, 2010 - 12:09 am

cori derksen - Thank you so much for the review. Was curious about the new ID mark IV. I love my 4D mark II but am always curious about the up and coming.

February 19, 2010 - 11:16 am

Jennifer - Hi Rick – I am completely satisfied as far as portraits go. The camera is equally good, if not better, at high ISO’s, like the 5D MK II. – Jennifer

February 17, 2010 - 9:00 pm

Rick - Thank you for your post. It was very valuable to me because I have been considering the 5D Mark II but have been concerned with the focusing issues that I have been reading about. And the 1D MarkIV has many nice features. I have been on the fence; due to I love to shoot both sports and portraits. Are you completely satisfied with the 1D Mark IV for portraits? Noise would be one of my concerns of the 1D Mark IV for not being a full frame camera.
Thanks
Rick

February 16, 2010 - 8:20 pm

jenjoaz - Lizzie – now that you say that, I think those other focal points have also lit up on occasion, but I’ll have to watch for that from now on. I think its the camera’s way of saying this is what is currently most in focus in the scene. Mine produced higher than usual out-of-focus/overly soft or complete misfire issues, even after having lenses all calibrated for that camera – another important thing I’ve read about. Something to do with the sensor and all those megapixels in how all the lenses will work ideally with that camera.

February 16, 2010 - 6:21 pm

Lizzie Kimball - Thanks for this post Jen! I just bought the 5D Mark II about a month ago, and it seems to have this really weird focusing thing going on! I use the back-focus button with the center button/recompose, and for some reason sometimes (not always–seems to do it mostly if shooting something dark) more than just the center focus point lights up: sometimes other focus points light up too and sometimes it’s just a slight flicker while other times the other focus points completely light up. However, it doesn’t really seem to change the actual focus point, I think it just likes to do that to drive me crazy. Even though I don’t seem to have anything more than usual out of focus, it’s always in the back of my head if that’s causing any type of focus issues. I’ve checked my settings over and over and I don’t think those other focus points should be lighting up! I’m just curious if you ever had that experience with your MKII!

February 16, 2010 - 5:13 pm

Suzanne - Let me just say thank you for this review from all of us photogs out here reading this post like it’s a juicy novel! I just made the switch from Nikon to Canon and it is such a PITA to revamp your equipment!

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